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2006-03-02 17:32![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
flexibeastSo, now someone's implied that i'm a hypocrite, because although on my LJ profile i note that:
Well, it's certainly true that i'm nowhere near Buddha-like; i in no way claim to have reached the point where i can feel empathy or compassion towards everyone, regardless of their behaviour. i don't, for example, feel much empathy for Bush or Howard. On a less extreme level, i don't feel a huge amount of compassion for those who drive their cars like idiots and end up wrapping themselves around a tree.
But let's take a more complex example. What about someone who was abused as a kid, and then goes on to be a dv perp? Well, i guess i feel that, unless this person has a mental illness, they ultimately have control over their own actions. They can choose not to engage in dv behaviour. So whilst i feel compassion for what they went through as a child, and although i could try to empathise with what it must have been like (despite knowing that i can probably only reach a vague approximation to that), i do struggle to find empathy for someone who is, at present, continually and knowingly hurting another person, without regret and without indicating that they wish to change.
So. Do i feel compassion or empathy for someone who is cheating on their partner? No, not really. i would feel compassionate towards a person whose partner was not being loving, and who was shutting them out; but that doesn't, to me, justify breaking the relationship agreement on the sly. i feel that if a relationship has problems, those problems need to be talked about openly, not just shoved to one side whilst all people involved go off and do their own thing. One might then ask: "But what happens if one or more people don't want to talk?" Well, i would suggest that if that situation persists, then really, the relationship should be ended. "But what if there are kids involved?" Well, i would suggest that staying together, but then engaging in dishonest and unethical behaviour - which the kids will almost inevitably find out about - is not providing those kids with useful life lessons about relationships. How healthy is it for kids to be raised by parents whose relationship is so fundamentally dysfunctional? The most empathy and compassion i would be feeling is for the kids, whose parents would seem to be behaving so immaturely . . . .
So yes, there are limits to my compassion and empathy - the compassion and empathy i feel for others is influenced by how ethically i feel those people are behaving. Maybe that's wrong; but it's what seems most reasonable to me at the moment . . . .
empathy and compassion are both very important to me: i am a very strongly empathic person, and people who are unwilling or unable to make the effort to empathise with others, and show compassion towards others, are not welcome on my journalthe fact that i'm judgemental about those who cheat on their partners show that i'm actually not empathic or compassionate.
Well, it's certainly true that i'm nowhere near Buddha-like; i in no way claim to have reached the point where i can feel empathy or compassion towards everyone, regardless of their behaviour. i don't, for example, feel much empathy for Bush or Howard. On a less extreme level, i don't feel a huge amount of compassion for those who drive their cars like idiots and end up wrapping themselves around a tree.
But let's take a more complex example. What about someone who was abused as a kid, and then goes on to be a dv perp? Well, i guess i feel that, unless this person has a mental illness, they ultimately have control over their own actions. They can choose not to engage in dv behaviour. So whilst i feel compassion for what they went through as a child, and although i could try to empathise with what it must have been like (despite knowing that i can probably only reach a vague approximation to that), i do struggle to find empathy for someone who is, at present, continually and knowingly hurting another person, without regret and without indicating that they wish to change.
So. Do i feel compassion or empathy for someone who is cheating on their partner? No, not really. i would feel compassionate towards a person whose partner was not being loving, and who was shutting them out; but that doesn't, to me, justify breaking the relationship agreement on the sly. i feel that if a relationship has problems, those problems need to be talked about openly, not just shoved to one side whilst all people involved go off and do their own thing. One might then ask: "But what happens if one or more people don't want to talk?" Well, i would suggest that if that situation persists, then really, the relationship should be ended. "But what if there are kids involved?" Well, i would suggest that staying together, but then engaging in dishonest and unethical behaviour - which the kids will almost inevitably find out about - is not providing those kids with useful life lessons about relationships. How healthy is it for kids to be raised by parents whose relationship is so fundamentally dysfunctional? The most empathy and compassion i would be feeling is for the kids, whose parents would seem to be behaving so immaturely . . . .
So yes, there are limits to my compassion and empathy - the compassion and empathy i feel for others is influenced by how ethically i feel those people are behaving. Maybe that's wrong; but it's what seems most reasonable to me at the moment . . . .
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Date: 2006-03-02 15:12 (UTC)I was in a position, many years ago, where I cheated on someone. Regardless of my reasoning, which at the time seemed sound, it made me less of the person I want to be. I, to this day, think less of myself for having made that decision, and it is one I will never make again.
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