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Some essential reading - particularly for those who regard legislative change as the primary vehicle for social change:

 

Date: 2006-03-27 08:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshire-bitten.livejournal.com
I like the first one, good article, I have wondered these things before, the points he makes are the reason I tend to avoid safe spaces of any kind, I will end up wanted to piss someone off because I think they are wrong and I know this is a community that isn't accommodating of that so I tend to avoid them, I don’t mind that they want safe space but I feel to disenchanted from every cultural subgroup that I associate with to be comfortable in there safe space.

Date: 2006-03-27 09:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flexibeast.livejournal.com
Interesting . . . . i think i know how you feel, at least to a certain extent.

My take on the "safe space" issue is that society in general shouldn't be expected to be a safe space in which no 'offensive' remarks can be made, because that will inevitably mean that 'offensive' political opinions will have to be stifled (e.g. let's not offend Christians by suggesting that God approves of same-sex marriage). On the other hand, i think that specific subsections of society have a right to create a safe space for themselves in which people don't have to worry about being hassled by people who don't share certain beliefs and values.

Having said that, i know that i have a number of opinions/beliefs that aren't particularly PC, and that i don't feel comfortable sharing in a semi-public space such as this, because i'm pretty darn sure that they would upset a number of people and probably result in non-constructive discussions.

Date: 2006-03-28 04:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshire-bitten.livejournal.com
Yes, I have no problem with any of that, like you often do you have said what I was trying to say with more eloquence than I could have.

Date: 2006-03-28 05:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flexibeast.livejournal.com
Oh, okay, well, cool. :-)

Date: 2006-03-28 05:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheshire-bitten.livejournal.com
I guess I was also trying to say that while I respect safe spaces I also avoid them out of respect, I understand why the space is there and I fell that if I was in that space I would have to bite my tongue when I didn’t want to or I would offend people, so I stay away and everyone is happy.

Date: 2006-03-28 05:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flexibeast.livejournal.com
*nod* That's one of the main reasons i stayed away from 'Moist' at WoW: even though they said they were trans-friendly (though i'm not sure of whether that included my 'brand' of trans), i felt that my presence would probably cause more distress than it was worth.

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