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i find it interesting that so many people seem to think that there's some objective "sense of humour". It's common to see, in personals ads, the abbreviation 'GSOH' - Great Sense Of Humour - as a property of the seeker or as a desirable property of the sought. But what, exactly, does it mean to have a "Great Sense of Humour"? Some people find it amusing to play pranks on people like putting tarantulas in their beds, for example - i seem to remember reading a personal ad where the seeker did things like this, and suggested that the person he was seeking "must have a better sense of humour than my last girlfriend".

More specifically, though, i have often been told i need to get a sense of humour - as has [livejournal.com profile] sacred_harlot. Yet, rarely a day goes by where i don't do or say something around [livejournal.com profile] sacred_harlot with humourous intent - and she finds it amusing. And this is despite the fact that my "sense of humour" is very nerdy/computer-geeky (such that i still chuckle when i think of [livejournal.com profile] cheshire_bitten's response to one of my recent posts), whereas [livejournal.com profile] sacred_harlot's "sense of humour" is definitely not that way inclined. Further, i'm not aware of any claims that [livejournal.com profile] naked_wrat doesn't have a sense of humour; but she often makes jokes that i find rather amusing through to hilarious.

It's particularly interesting to watch people use the "you need to get a sense of humour" tactic on me during discussions of political and/or social issues; as happened recently, someone tries to 'lighten' the discussion with a joke, and when i refuse to let the discussion be derailed, they then claim i have no sense of humour. But from my perspective, even if the 'joke' is intended as (to use Deborah Tannen's terminology) a 'connection' maneuver ("Hey, let's not argue, let's have fun!") rather than a 'control' maneuver, it can nevertheless often come across as the latter: the metamessage being conveyed to me is "I will decide how and when to change the tone of this conversation - and I have decided that the serious political talk section of this discussion is now over". Whether or not i actually find the 'joke' amusing is another matter - sometimes i do. The issue for me, though, is who is claiming the privilege to decide whether the issue under discussion is 'important' enough to warrant further discussion, or whether it can simply be dismissed with a 'joke'.

My writing style is naturally rather formal; and i tend to write about a lot of serious issues in my LJ and in online fora. So people often come to the conclusion that i'm a formal person overall, and get surprised when they actually meet me in person and find that i'm actually not as formal (and uptight :-) ) as my writing probably suggests. i feel i have a sense of humour - just not the sense of humour that is apparently expected of me by those who feel that their sense of humour is the only 'real' one.
 

Date: 2006-10-08 04:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naked-wrat.livejournal.com
I recently saw someone's profile on the swingers' site that I've been using that pointed out how often this term is used in profiles and they said 'who says that they don't have a GSOH?'

I think everyone probably does have a sense of humour, be it great or not, but I think people need to match their sense of humour with each other, like you did with that maths joke from [livejournal.com profile] cheshire_bitten.

Some sense of humour is really inappropriate though, thinking in particular of those who think that it is ok to joke about rape, and is a symptom of the way our society thinks that this is acceptable. I remember my cousin a couple of years ago said in reference to her friends 'I don't get offended when my friends tell rape jokes anymore' and I was outraged. I told her exactly why she shouldn't find this acceptable at all, especially when it's to be *eyeroll* socially acceptable.

Date: 2006-10-08 04:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flexibeast.livejournal.com
Ah yes, we feminists are a humourless lot, aren't we? :-/ i think it's somewhat ironic, though, that in critiquing such humour, and the patriarchal privileges it often involves, we are then told that it's 'unreasonable' to take such 'jokes' "so seriously". To me, it pretty much underlines the point we're making.

Date: 2006-10-08 08:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] superbbluewren.livejournal.com
That has been an issue in my group recently. My response was that I just do not regard sexist jokes as funny. I know that at least some of the men did not see the issue. Perhaps feminist allies are also a humourless lot!

In the book I am reading, in which the narrator is very sardonic, he makes the statement that 'a sense of humour is just the other side of despair'. I love it!

Date: 2006-10-08 13:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flexibeast.livejournal.com
Yes, misogyny amongst gay men is, in the experience of myself and my friends, all too common . . . .

"a sense of humour is just the other side of despair" - hmm, a thought-provoking quote indeed! i think i'll have to ponder on it a bit. :-)

Date: 2006-10-13 00:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sacred-harlot.livejournal.com
Well this debate is indeed interesting, well at least to me. I come from a an evrionment where there was never much to laugh about, so I guess that would account for me not laughing too much over the years. I also am a very serious person and have been since I can remember. So, basically I have had to 'learn' to laugh and be funny - but I think my sense of humour at least what I give out is more witty than funny, although surprisingly to me I do make people laugh on occasion. I think I learned my wittiness from my favourite uncle Joe. I enjoy British humour mostly, and in particular television comedy such as Not the nine o'clock news; the two Ronnies; Kenny Everett; Absolutely Fabulous; the vicar of Dibley. That seems like a lot of comedy actually, reflecting on the list I have just made :-P.

I like to think that as well as being amused by others that I contribute some giggling or at least smiling to a conversation; but in order to do so I need to be relaxed and happy, and unfortunately I have had many reasons to not be happy over the years :-( These days I am attempting to get my funny's where I can, and the passing on of laughter is such a gift - I intend to be a funny old woman :-P You do indeed make me laugh regularly Sweetie :-*

Much Love,
Sacred Harlot, passionate hugs and kisses XXX

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